GMCO map and "fish traps"
space inwaders  12/31/2008 - 13:20  Trip Tools  Potomac    I recently got a copy of GMCO upper potomac map from dam 4 to great falls. I noticed 2 places marked on the map called "fish traps". Has anyone seen these? What are they?

Noticed that this map also labels the old rubble dam at seneca breaks as "dam 2". I had read that it was built by Native Americans before European settlers arrived. I figured dam no 2 was the washington aqueduct dam-great falls dam, and dam 1 must be little falls dam. (?)

Many interesting features are marked, like old mills, canals, roadbeds, and some named holes, boatramps, wading areas (most not near roads or parking??), rapids, riffles, dams, historic sites, and roadways.

I studied cartography in school mainly, so i notice some quirks w/ the GMCO map.

1. All maps should have a legend that defines all of the symbols used on the map- The GMCO has a legend, but does not define several of the symbols shown on the map. Most of these spots are labeled on the map, but some are not.

For example, dotted lines, dashed lines, dotted circles around a certain area, some without any label as to what is noted there. And some labels for example "gravel bar" but there's no symbol to show where it is- its a pretty wide river, especially if your wading or on shore. There are areas where 2 features are labeled with text, but only one has a symbol.

2. There's no depths anywhere, but the river level is variable. Still there are many extra deep holes i know of that are not marked in any way on the map.

3. Some rocks/boulders/piles are labeled on the map, but none of the ones i know of were marked.

I dont mean to take all of this space with complaints b/c the GMCO map is still a great map and a great resource to have at hand. I'm sure its designed for boaters as a tool for safer navigation more than a resource for fisherman.

I'm tempted to start working on my own "shore fisherman's map of the upper potomac" series.
Traps and dams
Dee Tee  01/02/2009 - 11:12    Fish Traps - My understanding is that the local Indians made/ enhanced existing stone funnels or chutes with additional stacked stone that would direct fish moving down stream into their nets. One place I believe has these is below Lander before POR, river left. Best seen in low water conditions.

Dam 2 - The Seneca Breaks, as I understand it, was a dam built by George Washington's company constructing the canal as a means of directing water from the river into the canal at Violets in order to supply water to the canal itself.

As I said, this is just the way I have always understood it to be, but it may not be right.

-Dave

Don't worry, my bail is open!

interesting
space inwaders  01/04/2009 - 21:28    Very cool info, really interesting stuff. Yes one of the "fish traps" labeled is right above por on river left. I'd like to see some of these one day.

I know there is a portion of concrete dam on the md side that guides water to the canal at voilets, i read that the rubble dam known as seneca breaks was built by native americans to trap migrating fish. Who knows, but there's alot of interesting history on this river.

In several other places i've found small wing dams, or basically 1' tall stacked stone walls usually on top of existing rock current breaks. I dont know the age, i wondered if fisherman had built them to enhance some natural back eddies, maybe they are very old.

I'd love to see the river without any of the dams influence- i cant imagine great falls if there weren't 2 dams just upstream, or little falls.

winter's the time to hike and explore- there's always a new spot to check out.

-

Hey Steve, where did you get
Steve826  12/31/2008 - 14:56    Hey Steve, where did you get this map? How much did it cost? Once I get my canoe I'm probably gonna fish the UP alot in the summertime months so one of these would be helpful.

I'd Buy One
DanMarino  12/31/2008 - 14:19    Steve,

I'd buy one of your maps. Maybe you could take the GMCO map and add your extra knowledge to it? How much do you think it would sell for?

Tom

maps
space inwaders  01/01/2009 - 21:52    check out www.gmcomaps.com, they have several other maps of lakes and rivers.

This one was $9.95, but with tax and shipping $17.95. Its not typical paper, it might be paper with a coating, seems water resistant.

I'll add more detail to my personal map, i might end up with enough info to make a new map, but I dont think i'll produce and sell them. Its a good idea, but it'd take a ton of time. My hourly rate would be $1/ hour and the map'd cost $100- not worth it for anyone.

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